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good afternoon thank you for joining us

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for this sts-134 post mmt briefing

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joining us is leroy kane the chairman of

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the mmt and deputy for the space shuttle

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programming

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leroy thank you nicole good afternoon

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it's good to be back with you today um i

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think most of you i'm sure have have

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heard about ams the fact that it's

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been installed and activated and i

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believe dr tang was over to talk about

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some of the science that the

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that the uh experiments are already

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producing so

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um just uh

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fantastic news there a lot of folks are

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very excited about that and of course

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that's what what this is all about so

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we're all very happy about that

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um

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on board uh the crews had another really

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great day um their uh

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we have our ev crew members are camping

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out tonight

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um

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and uh the other crew members were

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working on eva prep toward the end of

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the day and of course we have our

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spacewalk tomorrow that we're looking

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forward to so all things going very well

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in that regard in terms of that

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preparation

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in the in the mmt today we talked about

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several items

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i'll touch on a few of them here

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we did get some

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some of our imagery data from the srb

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videos

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and the srb

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open assessment is actually ongoing but

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we do have some of the video available

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now and was put out there in the servers

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for our analysts to look at

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we were able to see in some of the some

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of the views that they showed us

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that it looks like we have some you know

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likelihood ice coming off some of the uh

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the locks feed line brackets

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one specific bracket the the bracket at

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the 1377 location

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looks like it generated some debris and

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again

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we believe it's probably ice but we'll

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go look at it

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and it was at about 70 seconds into the

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and

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in one case uh the uh the debris

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impacted one of the af struts

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um and broke into several smaller pieces

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in another case we saw a debris impact

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the starboard landing gear door and so

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we think that maps well into

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one of the damage sites that i showed

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you yesterday in the graphic and we'll

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look at that again today when we get to

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that graphic in a minute so we are

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beginning to get some of that video and

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and that will help us

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complete the puzzle in terms of

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determining

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to the best that we are able to to

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determine

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what generated some of these damage

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sites on the bottom of the orbiter

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and we were able to just look at a

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couple of those shots today in the

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mission management team

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um the srb team also reported that uh

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apparently one of the um one of the

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solid rocket booster parachutes was had

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a tear in it

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we don't know when that happened during

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anything more than it was

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apparently torn and so there'll be some

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post-flight assessment of that

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as well going forward

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in the major item that we talked about

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today and spent the most time on

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probably is our dat team assessment

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and when i was here yesterday i told you

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that we had seven areas on the underside

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of the vehicle on the tiles that we were

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still assessing

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of those areas we've been able to clear

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several of them and we still have a

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couple that are open so

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if we can go to the first graphic i

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think i can show that to you you'll

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recall this graphic i showed you

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and we have seven areas on there the the

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seven red dots

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have the yellow boxes associated with

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them are two areas that i'll talk a

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little bit more about that are still

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remain open as far as our assessment we

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have not cleared those areas

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the red dots that have the green boxes

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associated with them

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the team has

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successfully cleared those areas

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and there's no more work that we need to

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on those on those damaged sites those

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ones are good to go

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and so we do have two of them that

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remain open one of them

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is a is kind of in the middle of the

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cluster there it's the yellow box

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and so i think the next graphic will

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a picture of that one

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i actually showed you this picture

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yesterday

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so this is the site that that the team

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is spending most of the time on in terms

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of the one that's got our interests the

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primarily because of the dimensions of

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so there's some more work that that's

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ongoing in terms of looking at this site

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what i wanted to do was was uh

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was to show you some other data that we

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looked at the in the mmt today

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to include

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a damaged site that we had on on sts-118

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before i do that if we can go back to

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can we go back to the first slide there

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you see the first slide you see this box

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the green box labeled 2-003

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where we have a tile that was damaged

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that location

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is the same location

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where we had the tile damaged on the

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sts-118 mission

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that i'm about to show you a slide on

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and what i want to point out is uh

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is the relative vicinity of that damaged

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site compared to

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the damage site in the yellow box 2-001

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the damage on this flight

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the 2-001 the one that we're we're

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interested in looking at in more detail

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is approximately 14 inches forward

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and 11 inches in board

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of the site where we had damaged tile on

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so if you can keep that in mind

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this is a picture of the

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the damage that we had on the sts-118

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um again as i pointed out to you on the

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previous chart this you have an idea now

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where this damage site is relative to

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the damage that we have on the vehicle

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um this this is the imagery that we got

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during the focused inspection that we

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the picture on the left with the red box

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around it again shows you the location

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of where this damage was

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in the in the tile that was uh damaged

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a is a comparison of

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on sts-118 the dimensions

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of the damage to include the length

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our best estimate our current best

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estimate of what the damage

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coordinates and then the tile thickness

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comparing

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obviously the damage we had on the

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previous mission to what we what we see

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relatively close in terms of position on

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very close in terms of

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it's comparing the on-orbit focused

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inspection imagery that we had

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to uh to the to the picture that we took

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detail in the in the one on the right

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a pretty good camera and it's obviously

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capability than what we have on orbit

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but just to give you an idea

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of how we fared on sts-118 with with

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some pretty similar um kind of damage

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so this is this is the one that we're

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we're looking the most at um

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the team has not completed our our

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assessments on this site

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but the work we've done so far

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um that we believe that we we may need

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to do a focus inspection in order to get

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some more fidelity you can tell the

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picture is kind of fuzzy

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um the photo lab folks have tried to do

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some enhancements on it but um to the

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best of our ability the team is is

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trying to understand that from a

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dimensional analysis standpoint

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um and then they can go do the

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so those were the slides i wanted to

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with respect to that site as i said the

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work is ongoing

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the site

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that is the other yellow box that's on

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the elevon

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that was not cleared as the as of the

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time of the of the mmt discussion today

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but the team was pretty confident that

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they were going to be able to clear it

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this afternoon

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so i anticipate that site will probably

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be cleared however

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the plan that we have going forward out

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of the mmt today is

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i've directed the team to go ahead and

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put the focus inspection

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plan into work

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as you know we have the over

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flight flight plan timeline for saturday

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the operations team has gone and done

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the next level of assessment they have

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to do the robotics assessment once they

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find out the exact damage sites they

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have to go do all the robotics and

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and and they've done all that work and

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they're building those procedures

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and so that's the plan that we'll uplink

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to the crew

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at the end of their crew day tomorrow

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and it'll be a plan that will do focus

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inspection on those two locations

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now i think in all likelihood we will uh

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download to a second plan that we have

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which is to do the inspection on only

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the one site

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the site that's labeled the 2-01 and the

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yellow box the one that i've spent some

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time on here today

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because as i said i think we'll clear

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there's also a possibility that between

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now and the early hours of the morning

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that the debt team will in fact clear

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even this this site

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the 2-001 tile damage site

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they had less confidence that they would

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be able to do that based on what they

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knew coming into the mmt today

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but they did not rule out the

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possibility that they would be able to

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clear that site as well so

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in summary we have some more work to do

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on a couple of these sites

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pretty common pretty high confidence

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we're going to clear one of them some

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possibility that we're going to clear

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the other one we have procedures built

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and timelines built

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and ready to go to the crew tomorrow

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morning

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whatever the scenario might be

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for one or both of the sites or neither

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of them

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and if neither of course then we won't

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be doing focus inspection

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so it was really a good update

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from the team today that they're

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continuing to work very hard on the

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problem

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and

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to be in this process

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um and uh

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we'll move forward from here and and

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tomorrow we'll have uh we'll have some

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more information and we'll report that

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as we get it

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um

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the other item of discussion that we had

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today in the mmt was

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the soyuz 25s undock plan

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as you know when we

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when we decided that

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we could launch on may 16th

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we did that with an understanding that

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there would be a soyuz undock occurring

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while the shuttle was docked

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we've done a lot of work with with what

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we call ddo or dual docked operations

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which is to say

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another vehicle is

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departing the station in an undock and

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separation fashion while the shuttle is

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docked there

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and so we've done a lot of work on that

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for a couple years

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in this case we had done even more work

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for the specific

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kind of scenario with the soyuz coming

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off of the mrm1 port

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as we were preparing to do this

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undock and fly around on sts-133

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which we ultimately did not do

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in this case

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it's a soyuz undock from mrm1 port but

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it is not a fly around or even a fly

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about as we spoke about on sts-133

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it's really an undock

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with a station attitude maneuver

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and then

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some photography ops from the soyuz and

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so from a shuttle standpoint

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uh most of the work that we needed to do

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to be prepared to go do

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um

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for the station to go do the 25s undock

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during this this shuttle dock mission

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we've already done

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and so most of our work was going back

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and verifying and re-verifying

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that

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based on the 25s

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departure corridor

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the trajectory the the plumes um all of

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those kind of things that we analyze as

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a matter of course for for all of the

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ddo work that we've been doing

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we went back and re-verified for this

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exact case that that we're okay and

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we're safe

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and we have the margins that we need to

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have

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um and so the team came in and presented

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that plan today uh in addition to an

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overview of of the profile uh for the

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undock

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and the the station attitude maneuver

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and the photography operations that are

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going to take place

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to include which crew members are going

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to do what on shuttle and station

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and and and what the soyuz crew is going

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to be doing now this happens on monday

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it happens at approximately 4 30 the

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undock time is about 4 30 in the

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afternoon central time

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so the shuttle crew the sts crew will

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actually be

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i'm not going to guarantee that they're

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all going to be sleeping during that

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time frame

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but it is during their sleep period the

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way we have it scheduled

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and

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the team has laid out the entire plan in

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a way that i think is is very easy for

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us to understand

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and

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we laid that against the work that we

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are had already done for ddo operations

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um and did a real good thorough review

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of that today in the mmt so i'm prepared

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to go into this station mmt tomorrow

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morning

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and uh and tell them that we're

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comfortable and and uh barring something

430
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coming up between now and then we'll be

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from a shuttle standpoint will we go for

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the the 25s on dock as planned

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now i will tell you that um

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there's a good bit of work still ongoing

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on the station side primarily

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there's a lot of coordination with the

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russians in terms of the attitudes and

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the commands that are required

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as well as the the power plan

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and the

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analysis have ongoing work on the

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station side

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that work is not complete

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they have to make some assumptions when

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they do that work so

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if in making those assumptions the the

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analysis for the power and the thermal

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law comes out good then they'll be happy

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to perform

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the undock with the attitude maneuver

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and the photo ops that we've talked

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about

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they are continuing to carry their their

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quote nominal undock plan so that in the

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event that something doesn't turn out

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with the margins and and doesn't turn

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out favorable in terms of the thermal or

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the power plan

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they can go to their normal uh soyuz

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undock plan and in that case we would

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not see the station maneuvers

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and the crew on the soyuz would not be

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doing the photo ops and

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and we essentially wouldn't be doing

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what we've been planning for

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so they're carrying both of those plans

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forward and they need to do that until

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such time as their thermal and power

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plan comes back and they have all of

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that showing favorable i think they feel

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a

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tomorrow so

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with that that

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kind of wraps up everything we talked

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about at the mmt today i feel really

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good about where we are

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the team is continuing to perform at a

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very high level

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and of course all the major objectives

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that we're trying to accomplish on this

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mission um are just

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they're coming off without a hitch

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frankly

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i couldn't be more pleased about um

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about the uh all of the work that's gone

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into the mission and how it's turning

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out here for us in terms of the elc

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transfer and the ams

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um and so we're turning our attention

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toward the spacewalks now now

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it's a huge part of this mission as well

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and you know we put a lot of focus on

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spacewalks so

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we're ready to go do the first spacewalk

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tomorrow

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and with that i'd be happy to take any

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questions all right thank you very much

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that was a great update leroy and we'll

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seth morenstein ap

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leroy forgive me i missed

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most of yesterday all of yesterday's i

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was in flight

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so

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can you go through the timeline of

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saturday with the focus inspection what

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time are we looking at on

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saturday i mean will it impinge on the

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eva preps for eva2 who will do what

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i can do some of that

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and because this is a station

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operation

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um i can tell you in in broad strokes

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what the what the plan is

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um the timeline is still being refined a

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little bit but in general um

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the the actual undocking occurs at 4 30

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central time

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okay i meant the focus inspection oh oh

519
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forgive me

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okay

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um

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and again here i don't have an exact

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time for you but i can tell you

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that the beginning of the focus

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inspection where we have it laid in

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right now would be

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um

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approximately

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it's toward the end of the cruise

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morning if you will

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okay

532
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so um and it's uh

533
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it's about a three hour block of time i

534
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think

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um

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you know timeline with all the details

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on both sides of it uh with which crew

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members are doing what um i'd be getting

539
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in front of the ops team a little bit uh

540
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to to give you any more than that right

541
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now

542
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but coming in here tomorrow

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we will absolutely have

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every detail of that plan that we can

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show you and it'll be the one that we

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uplink to the crew

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i don't want to give you any more detail

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in that right now because

549
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i might give you something that would be

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different than what we ultimately decide

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to uplink to the crew and that wouldn't

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be helpful

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so

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basically it starts about the middle of

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the cruise about the end of the cruise

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morning on flight day six so it's really

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friday night saturday morning

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and and it'll be saturday morning in the

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early early hours of the morning when we

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start the focused inspection

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and forgive me since i also missed it

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the

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dimensions of

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oh oh one

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two 2-001

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length width depth we could put the

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chart back up

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00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:00,149
put the sts-118 damage comparison chart

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this is for 2-001 this is the one

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that we're most interested in the only

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other one that we still have some work

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00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:18,080
on going is the tile damage on the on

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and and we believe we're going to clear

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that one

575
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,480
so these dimensions are 3.22 inches by

576
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:31,280
2.4

577
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:38,630
and that's length width and depth in

578
00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:42,950
and just

579
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:44,720
for layman just

580
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:46,559
what goes on in a focus inspection it's

581
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:47,840
been a while since i've seen one of

582
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:55,190
we have some instrumentation

583
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,520
cameras and lasers on the end of the

584
00:22:02,230 --> 00:21:59,600
orbiter boom sensor system

585
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:02,240
and we'll pick up that boom with

586
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:03,039
the

587
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,320
and we'll

588
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,320
extend that down below over the wing and

589
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,400
below the vehicle and we'll look at

590
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,480
these areas with both cameras and the

591
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:16,240
and the laser and that will give us a

592
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:17,440
very good

593
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:18,720
um

594
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:21,679
images as as well as uh measurements if

595
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,640
you will

596
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:24,880
um of the damaged site

597
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,039
and and it would be the the picture that

598
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,360
i showed you earlier the sts-118 damage

599
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:31,520
was from focused inspection on that

600
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,909
clara moskowitz with space.com and um

601
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,840
can you give me an idea sort of big

602
00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,240
picture just how often is a focused

603
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:46,559
inspection necessary you know how many

604
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,510
i can tell you exactly how many times

605
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,799
we've done it

606
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,400
because i asked the team yesterday and

607
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,200
they and they reminded me

608
00:23:01,990 --> 00:22:59,679
we did it on sts-114 that was our return

609
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:02,000
to flight mission

610
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,520
and

611
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,360
we had there

612
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,600
some gap fillers

613
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,919
that came came loose as well as some

614
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,600
other damaged sites that we were looking

615
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:12,640
at

616
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,480
in the summer of 2005 i believe

617
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,760
so

618
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:27,520
we had that

619
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,520
time period where you know we didn't fly

620
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,080
between 114 and 121 which was about 9 or

621
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,919
10 months something like that

622
00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:35,360
because we had some more work to do on

623
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:37,039
the external tank as a result of what we

624
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:38,480
saw on the first return to flight

625
00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:39,360
mission

626
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,440
so we did some focus inspection on 114

627
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:42,640
in orbit

628
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:45,279
we did some on sts-121

629
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,080
um

630
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,000
in both of those cases you'll you'll

631
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,600
recall that

632
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,600
in the earlier flights as part of our

633
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,440
return to flight effort

634
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:55,600
we still had some gap fillers that were

635
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:57,679
coming loose on us because we had been

636
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:00,559
doing the gap filler work

637
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,720
as much as we were able to do in each

638
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,400
orbit or flow

639
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,679
for each one of the return to flight

640
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,400
missions so as time went on we saw fewer

641
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,960
and fewer gap fillers protruding because

642
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,640
we were in fact

643
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,559
proactively going and replacing them in

644
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,720
each orbit or flow

645
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:18,960
every opportunity that we had so there

646
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:21,679
was a lot of gap filler uh to look at on

647
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,840
on 114 and 121.

648
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,360
um

649
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,080
sts-118 that i've showed you here today

650
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:30,799
we did a focus inspection there

651
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,679
and then on sts 120

652
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,360
2 i believe

653
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:37,760
um we did a focus inspection for some

654
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:40,000
damage on ohm's pod

655
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:40,960
um

656
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:43,200
tile blanket area i think i can't

657
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,880
remember exactly

658
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:47,120
but i believe it was on the on the port

659
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,400
homes pod

660
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,120
and so we've done it four times

661
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,640
and we've looked at

662
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,200
more than one damage site

663
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,919
on at least three of those missions

664
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,679
this focus inspection that we're talking

665
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:01,440
about here if we go execute it on

666
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:02,720
saturday

667
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,919
we'll look at this one site

668
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,400
and and possibly the site

669
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:09,919
where we have the damage on the elevon

670
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:11,200
as well although i think that's a lot

671
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,360
it's pretty unlikely we'll do that one

672
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,039
thanks and also just one more question

673
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,520
um to be clear would you if you do end

674
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,360
up having to do the focused inspection

675
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,039
would you have to cancel any planned

676
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:24,720
activities or would that just be less

677
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,640
downtime for the crew

678
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:28,960
yeah it's um i talked about this a

679
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:32,240
little bit uh yesterday

680
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,679
the we don't have to cancel any

681
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,799
activities

682
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,840
um

683
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,400
the the team has done an amazing job

684
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,320
with this timeline because of some of

685
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,320
the challenges that we had leading up to

686
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,640
first launch attempt

687
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,799
with getting everything synchronized and

688
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:48,080
choreographed

689
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,520
they had to work really really hard on

690
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,720
it and then

691
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:52,159
for the second launch attempt it was

692
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:53,600
even more challenging with respect to

693
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,799
sleep shift

694
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,600
and and adding the both of the plus one

695
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,919
days and doing that um at the outset for

696
00:26:02,870 --> 00:26:01,919
the launch on the second launch attempt

697
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,880
um

698
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,559
they built the timeline and they made

699
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,480
changes to it such that

700
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,400
we could sort of plug and play most of

701
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,600
these flight days and included in that

702
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,000
is the ability to to work around

703
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,520
something like doing a focused

704
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,520
inspection on flight day six

705
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,960
so

706
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,799
they have it placed in the timeline in a

707
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:23,360
place that is probably the most benign

708
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,400
that it could possibly be in terms of

709
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,919
upsetting the other activities that

710
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,360
we're trying to do in the sequence that

711
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:31,200
we're trying to do them in this in this

712
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,080
mission

713
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:35,200
so we're real fortunate

714
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,760
because the team has worked really hard

715
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,520
on the timeline and on the plans and on

716
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:41,760
the contingency plans so we don't we're

717
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:44,720
not going to cancel a single thing

718
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:45,520
and

719
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,080
in in all likelihood

720
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,000
it'll mean that

721
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:51,760
we'll have one or two crew members that

722
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,240
may have to spend uh you know work a

723
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,400
little harder for a couple of minutes on

724
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:58,480
one of the days we're doing transfer

725
00:27:03,590 --> 00:26:59,520
um

726
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,590
thank you

727
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:12,710
philip sloss with nasaspaceflight.com

728
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,159
um

729
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,000
on the on this uh

730
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:18,320
on this site

731
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:20,159
i mean i i realize you don't have as

732
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,120
much

733
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,840
precision in the in in in this as with

734
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:26,000
the 118 side since you've already did

735
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:27,440
you've done a focused inspection on that

736
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,399
but

737
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:30,799
um it's

738
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,799
is there is there

739
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:34,799
so the differences between the the two

740
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,360
sites we have a different tile thickness

741
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,159
uh possibly different damage does that

742
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:42,080
is that going to

743
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,360
is there any preliminary sort of

744
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:45,600
assessment in terms of

745
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,279
do you need whether you would whether

746
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,520
you'll be able to clear this ultimately

747
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,760
with or without the the additional data

748
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,360
from the inspect from an inspection if

749
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,360
you need to do that

750
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,039
well it's a good question and it's

751
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,600
important question um and we talked some

752
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,360
about it in the in the mission

753
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,799
management team

754
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:04,080
um

755
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,360
the uh

756
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:07,200
as you can see from the graphic i showed

757
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,880
you earlier the dimensions are are

758
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,440
pretty similar um when you compare the

759
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:13,200
118 damage to the one that we're dealing

760
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,640
with here

761
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,720
to include the depth at least our best

762
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:18,159
estimate of the depth

763
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,039
um

764
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:21,279
some of the challenges and maybe we go

765
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:23,200
ahead and put that the second graphic

766
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:24,720
back up the one that has this damaged

767
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:33,669
the um the one that has the sts-134

768
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:34,960
damage site

769
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:40,470
i think it's

770
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:43,360
2a is when it's labeled on my

771
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,750
so

772
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,350
what the team is trying to do is to

773
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:54,880
understand

774
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:57,840
what what's actually in the

775
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,159
in the white space uh that you see what

776
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,640
what the white of the tile here so

777
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,200
there's varying depth

778
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:07,200
and it's very difficult

779
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:08,880
they do their best with lighting and

780
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,960
shadows and things of that nature to try

781
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,399
and determine where the where the

782
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,200
deepest parts of the cavity are and and

783
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:18,320
how those are oriented to the to the the

784
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,549
and there are some challenges with that

785
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,159
because as you can see this picture's a

786
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:28,399
little fuzzy

787
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:29,360
i think

788
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,640
we had a little bit better fortune on

789
00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,200
118 even before we did focus inspection

790
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,880
i think we had a more clear picture than

791
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,799
this

792
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,559
but at any rate

793
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,120
one of the one of the important factors

794
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,440
is you know

795
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:45,840
volumetrically how is that how are the

796
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,240
deeper parts of that of that cavity

797
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,159
oriented to the airflow

798
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:51,520
and then

799
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:52,399
um

800
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:54,240
what does that mean in terms of the the

801
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:56,559
aerothermal

802
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,600
aspect

803
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:59,360
of the analysis so

804
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,240
on the 118 case we had a cavity that

805
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:03,840
turned out to be sort of

806
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,840
they had what the team likes to call a

807
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:06,799
shelf

808
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:09,120
so it had sort of a gradual slope down

809
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:11,039
to kind of a plateau and then and then

810
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:13,919
back up in kind of a sharp

811
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,430
at the back side of the of the cavity

812
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,039
this one is different than that

813
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:24,720
and

814
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,399
they won't know until we get better

815
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:30,559
fidelity

816
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,919
on the on the depth dimensions

817
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:35,679
how much different it is and whether

818
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,480
it's

819
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,799
going to be an issue in terms of

820
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,200
how the flow will affect the capability

821
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:44,080
of the tile to to protect the the

822
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,760
structure and the systems underneath it

823
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:50,159
if you took this cavity and you oriented

824
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,399
it differently

825
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:54,960
it might be easier to clear it

826
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,519
just to give you an example

827
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,240
and so while it's similar to the 118

828
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,159
damage area

829
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,399
as best we know it today without focus

830
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,559
inspection there are some differences

831
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,159
and and some of those differences are

832
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,559
where the deepest parts are oriented to

833
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,200
and how they're oriented to the the

834
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,600
the free stream flow

835
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:17,200
so that just gives you an example of one

836
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,559
of the kinds of things that they look at

837
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,080
and what would be similar and what would

838
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:22,320
be different

839
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:24,640
now it is possible that that through the

840
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,080
rest of the day today

841
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,840
they will make some very conservative

842
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,880
assumptions about you know

843
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:33,600
what we might find in focus inspection

844
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:36,399
and then sort of envelope the problem

845
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,679
such that they could come back and say

846
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:39,279
well when we did this

847
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,919
we saw that we had margin in this case

848
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,039
and

849
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,279
you know in that sense we might be able

850
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:46,960
to to clear it without focused

851
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:50,000
inspection but um as of the time we did

852
00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:51,760
the mmt they didn't think

853
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,519
uh they weren't confident that they were

854
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:55,120
going to be able to do that whereas the

855
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,240
site

856
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:58,320
on the elevon with the damage

857
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,600
they had very high confidence they're

858
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,120
going to be able to clear that it's

859
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,200
probably already cleared

860
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:05,440
by this afternoon

861
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:06,320
thanks

862
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:07,840
and uh

863
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:10,960
the second question is about this

864
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,080
well about the the 72nd i guess the

865
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,679
first part of it is just was this a

866
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,080
single event at 70 seconds

867
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,000
and and did that event

868
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:22,480
cause this this impact that you're that

869
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:24,799
that's being discussed more thoroughly

870
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,039
okay so yeah i was talking about the srb

871
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,880
video and we're just starting to see

872
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,640
some of the srb videos so the team was

873
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,720
not able to go through and assess all of

874
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:33,919
it it's it's

875
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:35,600
a lot to look at

876
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,440
from from the boosters

877
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,120
but they did show us a couple of clips

878
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:40,799
one of the clips is

879
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,480
is of this debris event from the 1377

880
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,960
lox feed line bracket

881
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,720
is where the the debris generate is

882
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:50,720
generated from that bracket

883
00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:53,440
and in that case it's a single piece of

884
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:56,240
debris that traverses down the stack and

885
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:59,200
impacts the the half strut

886
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,120
on the tank

887
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,039
and then it it sprays into several

888
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,440
pieces and doesn't you can't tell from

889
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:07,519
that video whether that

890
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:08,880
whether any of those smaller pieces

891
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:11,919
impacts the orbiter or not i think

892
00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:13,360
you can tell that it probably doesn't

893
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,559
but i don't know if you can tell with

894
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,640
certainty that none of those smaller

895
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,440
pieces impacted those smaller pieces of

896
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,960
spray wouldn't have caused this kind of

897
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:23,120
damage that we're talking about

898
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,799
even if they did in fact impact the

899
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,000
orbiter

900
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,200
um so that was at 70 seconds

901
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:31,519
at 70.3 seconds

902
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:35,360
from that same vicinity of the 1377 lox

903
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,519
feed line bracket we see a piece of

904
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:39,120
debris coming off

905
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,320
and traversing down and and hitting the

906
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,519
starboard main landing gear door

907
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,960
and we can tell with pretty good

908
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,240
certainty

909
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:50,320
from the impact and then the spray if

910
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,880
you will after the impact

911
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:53,679
that

912
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:58,559
the main landing gear door and it

913
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,840
impacted in

914
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:02,159
the area and caused the damage that

915
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:03,760
we'll show you that i showed you

916
00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:06,080
yesterday on the main landing gear door

917
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:07,840
that was one of those seven areas which

918
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:10,000
we subsequently cleared

919
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,879
so

920
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:12,639
those were two events

921
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,520
very close in time in that 70 and 70.3

922
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,359
seconds both appear to have been

923
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,040
generated

924
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,760
originated i should say from the 1377

925
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:24,159
lox feedline bracket

926
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,399
were suspect that that one or probably

927
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,119
both of them were were ice as opposed to

928
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:34,550
and uh

929
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:35,760
and we think

930
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,079
that and they and they both impacted one

931
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,919
on the on the external tank strut and

932
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,240
the other one on the landing gear door

933
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,599
thank you and then

934
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,399
one one final one about imagery have you

935
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:48,720
been able to go back and find imagery of

936
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:51,040
either ascent imagery of

937
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:52,240
of this

938
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,079
or pre-launch imagery for instance from

939
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,000
the final inspection team on that

940
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:58,400
bracket

941
00:35:01,190 --> 00:35:00,069
yes yes we have that's not a good

942
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,200
question

943
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,880
we didn't talk about that in the mmt

944
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:04,560
today but i do know from my

945
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:06,000
conversations outside the meeting

946
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:07,119
afterwards

947
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,880
um and asking a couple of questions the

948
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,520
answer is that we have still photos of

949
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,599
course we have close out and and

950
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,079
pre-launch on the pad photos and and

951
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,720
video of of all of these areas

952
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,560
and we do have

953
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,040
still photos where we have

954
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,119
ice formation on those brackets which is

955
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,359
typical

956
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,520
on a day like we had launch day like we

957
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,520
had where it was a pretty good ice

958
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,359
formulating day

959
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,480
in terms of the the weather conditions

960
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:38,000
now you'll recall

961
00:35:40,349 --> 00:35:39,280
that

962
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,359
this

963
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:42,160
et-122

964
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:43,920
didn't have some of the modifications

965
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:46,720
that our return to flight tanks have

966
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,520
one of the modifications it didn't have

967
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,240
is to those feed line brackets

968
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,320
we they still have the older bracket

969
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:56,800
design and not the new titanium brackets

970
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,800
the new tanks with the newer tanks

971
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:02,880
with the titanium brackets don't have

972
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,040
the tendency to to have ice buildup in

973
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:07,040
these locks feed line bracket areas like

974
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:09,280
like we saw on et-122

975
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,320
so

976
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,720
this was not unexpected in terms of the

977
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:15,119
performance that we expected from et122

978
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,560
this is one of the areas where we knew

979
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,720
we had some susceptibility

980
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:20,079
as a result of not having that

981
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:28,790
mark caro for aviation week um

982
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,599
switching to the uh to the photograph

983
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:33,760
can you can you give us some idea of the

984
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,400
perspective that you would get from the

985
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,400
current plan of the of the orbiter i

986
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:40,640
mean i guess i'm sort of asking what

987
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:41,599
your

988
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,720
in the in the imagery you get or or do

989
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,280
they just kind of go for what they what

990
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:51,760
they can get

991
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,200
well i can sort of try to describe

992
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,800
what you'll see when they bring in and

993
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,800
show you the video tomorrow mark they're

994
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:00,800
actually going to show you a video

995
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,560
and it has three pictures in it one is

996
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:07,280
from the soyuz vantage point

997
00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,680
um one is sort of a side view of the

998
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,720
vehicle

999
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,040
um

1000
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,800
not quite a god's eye view but sort of a

1001
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,480
side view of the vehicle that the the

1002
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,040
entire stack to include the shuttle

1003
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,960
station to soyuz everything before the

1004
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,800
unknocking occurs and then the other one

1005
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:24,720
is is

1006
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,680
the view that you see just the vehicle

1007
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:30,000
along the velocity vector moving uh

1008
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,440
around the earth

1009
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,119
and so then they play the video and it

1010
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:34,720
shows you the separation and what you

1011
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,240
see from the soyuz during the separation

1012
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,839
then they'll show you this the the

1013
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,440
station and how it maneuvers the

1014
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:41,599
attitude maneuvers uh underneath the

1015
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,720
soyuz

1016
00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:45,280
and that'll that'll show you the exact

1017
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:48,079
perspective from the soyuz of the

1018
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,200
um

1019
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:50,880
of the entire stack

1020
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,160
um

1021
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,240
but basically we maneuver to a yv

1022
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,400
attitude for the undock as opposed to

1023
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,920
the normal latitude that we fly around

1024
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:00,800
the earth in um and then do the undock

1025
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,200
and then do a another

1026
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:05,280
station attitude maneuver so that you

1027
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,320
can get

1028
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:08,480
a perspective of the station that

1029
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:09,520
includes

1030
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,240
so you can get sort of a side view of

1031
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,839
the station with the vehicles that are

1032
00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:15,440
attached to it instead of looking down

1033
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,240
any one axis or looking more in plane

1034
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:20,079
where you would be less able to

1035
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:21,119
appreciate

1036
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:22,560
all of the

1037
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:28,310
so

1038
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:30,240
i can't describe it much better than

1039
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:31,680
that without showing you a picture in a

1040
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:33,359
video and i unfortunately don't have one

1041
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:34,560
today but they'll be able to show you

1042
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,839
that tomorrow

1043
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,480
okay i guess i'll press just a tiny bit

1044
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,400
do you have the earth or space in the

1045
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,800
background or a combination or is that

1046
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,400
we're going too far here

1047
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,800
i i'm just sort of wondering what what

1048
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:48,720
the context

1049
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,630
i don't recall

1050
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:56,160
i wish i did

1051
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,960
um

1052
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:58,560
but

1053
00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:01,839
the video is great

1054
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:04,280
all right thank you and gina

1055
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,160
um abc news uh with with this is focus

1056
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,160
inspection are you considering adding a

1057
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:11,920
day to this mission has that come up in

1058
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,800
discussions at all um we're not going to

1059
00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,320
add a day

1060
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,920
we don't think we need to add any time

1061
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:20,160
into the plan i did ask the crew of the

1062
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,960
team

1063
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:22,320
just

1064
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:28,470
in the last day or so you know

1065
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,839
we'll take whatever time we need to do

1066
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:32,320
this is the time that we have planned

1067
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:33,520
sufficient

1068
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:34,640
um

1069
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,040
and all the answers came back that that

1070
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,640
we feel very comfortable with what we

1071
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,720
have timeline and what we had in there

1072
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:42,640
as a placeholder

1073
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,680
this is a fairly straightforward

1074
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:47,680
as far as focus inspections go in

1075
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,280
particular if we only have one site to

1076
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:51,280
look at

1077
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,000
so

1078
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,000
we didn't feel a need to add any time or

1079
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,280
certainly not a day to the plan

1080
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,880
okay with that we're going to move to

1081
00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,320
the phone bridge where i believe we have

1082
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:02,079
three three reporters waiting with

1083
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:13,670
i believe irene klotz with reuters will

1084
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,190
okay i think maybe we lost irene we'll

1085
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:30,000
start with bill harwood with cbs

1086
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:31,599
yeah thank you uh leroy a couple of

1087
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,520
questions and and i apologize if you

1088
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:35,760
addressed any of this earlier um had

1089
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:38,880
some children issues had to deal with

1090
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,119
an obvious question with tile damage is

1091
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:42,960
what are the the possible implications

1092
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,480
and i realize looking at this it doesn't

1093
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,319
look as bad as 118

1094
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:48,720
and you may be able to clear it but if

1095
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,920
you don't

1096
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:51,920
can you tell us worst case this is not a

1097
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,319
loss of vehicle issue worst case i'm

1098
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:56,160
assuming this is a repair issue and

1099
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:57,760
that's worst case

1100
00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:58,640
um

1101
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:03,119
if you had to repair something like this

1102
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,920
one

1103
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,760
can you refresh our memories about

1104
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,920
exactly what the astronauts could do and

1105
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:09,440
and what effect it would have and i

1106
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,640
realized that you know you're not

1107
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:12,160
anywhere near making a decision like

1108
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,440
that but i want to make sure i

1109
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:15,440
understand what all the options are

1110
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:21,430
okay bill um

1111
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,640
well you're correct in in terms of the

1112
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,640
the worry factor on this one

1113
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,400
and uh let me be specific when i was

1114
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:29,920
here yesterday i talked about the fact

1115
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,800
that

1116
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,400
you know this is not

1117
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,480
i'm not concerned about the damage that

1118
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:35,839
we're seeing here

1119
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,040
um and it's certainly not alarming and

1120
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:41,520
and the team is not concerned about it

1121
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:47,030
my confidence is is largely derived from

1122
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,480
the fact that we have a very good

1123
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,240
process for dispositioning these things

1124
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:52,640
we know exactly how to go assess them

1125
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:55,920
we've gotten better and better at it

1126
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,720
and and we know that our models are

1127
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,480
are doing nothing but improving as time

1128
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:03,520
goes on and we get more experience

1129
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:04,400
and

1130
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:09,200
come up to a point in our assessment

1131
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,480
where we feel like we need to get some

1132
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:13,200
more data we know how to go do that i.e

1133
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:14,800
focused inspection

1134
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,280
which we're talking about doing now

1135
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:20,000
which we may do saturday

1136
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,599
we still may not do it also

1137
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:25,359
and then when it comes right down to it

1138
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:28,880
if if focus inspection and the analysis

1139
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:32,000
of the data from focused inspection

1140
00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:33,520
determined that we didn't have the kind

1141
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,880
of margins here that we wanted to have

1142
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,960
then we do have some options to go do

1143
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,359
some repair and

1144
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,599
and bill i'll indulge you a little bit

1145
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,040
but i don't want to go too far down this

1146
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:47,040
path because

1147
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,000
i have a pretty high degree of

1148
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,440
confidence that this is not where we're

1149
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:52,240
going but suffice it to say as you know

1150
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,520
well we do have some repair capability

1151
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:57,839
we have one that with some material that

1152
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:05,510
like a a gun type

1153
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,680
applicator and we put some

1154
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:08,960
some

1155
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,680
sta54

1156
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,440
we also have what's called a tile

1157
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,680
overlay

1158
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,599
and

1159
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,440
we have a lot of

1160
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,200
confidence in

1161
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,040
both of those repair capabilities if we

1162
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,920
should need to use them we also have

1163
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,280
the ability to

1164
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,880
to do some

1165
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,960
you know some verification on the ground

1166
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,400
of different kind of repairs that we're

1167
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,720
getting ready to go do so but that's

1168
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,079
really about as far as i want to take

1169
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,040
this discussion because um

1170
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,200
i i feel pretty confident that if in

1171
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,640
fact we're not able to clear it by the

1172
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,400
morning

1173
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,560
when we get the folks focused inspection

1174
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:49,599
data

1175
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,280
that we'll be able to clear this problem

1176
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,599
and and not have to do anything uh

1177
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,000
before we can return safely

1178
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,400
um but having said that we're gonna go

1179
00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:00,000
do whatever is necessary and we're gonna

1180
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,440
follow the data

1181
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,680
all the way along in that process and

1182
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,200
and in the meantime we're gonna stay

1183
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,720
very much in the process and within

1184
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,400
ourselves and we're not going to get too

1185
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,880
far ahead of ourselves

1186
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,119
i wanted to show you today the 118 case

1187
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:15,520
because of the similarities

1188
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:17,599
but also that there are some differences

1189
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:19,119
and

1190
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:21,520
but i think the similarities are are

1191
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,720
good to show

1192
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:23,520
um

1193
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,960
and the fact that we did do a focus

1194
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:26,160
inspection and the fact that we did

1195
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,680
determine we didn't need to do anything

1196
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:30,480
in that case um i wouldn't be surprised

1197
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,000
at all if we end up

1198
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:34,480
if we end up on a very similar path here

1199
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:35,839
in fact that frankly that's my

1200
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:38,079
expectation

1201
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:39,839
leroy you mentioned uh once again the

1202
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:42,160
118 case and i remember in that case

1203
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,520
john shannon was telling us that one of

1204
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,880
the reasons it was

1205
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,560
cleared for re-entry was because of the

1206
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,240
underlying structure

1207
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:49,920
can you tell us anything about in this

1208
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,800
location is it similar uh in the sense

1209
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,079
of you know the heat sink that's

1210
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,839
involved in all of that

1211
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,000
thank you very much that's it for me

1212
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,000
you bet bill um in fact let's put up the

1213
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,319
graphic that shows the uh the entire

1214
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:03,520
bottom side of the order i think is the

1215
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,790
this isn't the best picture for showing

1216
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:15,040
you this or illustrating this but

1217
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,040
if you can imagine

1218
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,560
the the line that kind of goes down

1219
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,720
this starboard side

1220
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,240
if you just sort of connect all the red

1221
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,839
dots on the starboard side of the

1222
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:27,440
vehicle

1223
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:30,640
there's an intersection there between

1224
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,520
the main body of the vehicle

1225
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:35,520
um and and the wing

1226
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,319
and

1227
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,680
so um

1228
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:39,359
this is kind of in the area where the

1229
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:42,319
where the wing box is where the

1230
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:44,720
the the delta wing on the starboard side

1231
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,400
connects to the main body of the vehicle

1232
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,480
and so there's a lot of structure

1233
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,079
underneath this area

1234
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:54,000
and in fact

1235
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:55,119
bill

1236
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:56,800
to be more specific

1237
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:59,119
and and we didn't talk this in detail on

1238
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,720
the mmt today but i've asked the team to

1239
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,800
bring in some more detail

1240
00:46:08,990 --> 00:46:05,760
for tomorrow's discussion

1241
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,000
we think that the tile damage here the

1242
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,119
2-0-1 the one we're talking about on

1243
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,040
sts-134

1244
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:14,880
where it's a little bit forward and

1245
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,160
inboard of what we had on 118

1246
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,920
is actually over

1247
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,079
even even a little bit more beefy

1248
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:24,640
beefier part of the

1249
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,560
structure than what we had on 118 so

1250
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:30,000
there's a potential that we'll be able

1251
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,839
to take even more advantage of the

1252
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:34,960
of that

1253
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,920
than we were able to on sts-118

1254
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,599
and so um

1255
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,920
there really aren't any other systems

1256
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,400
directly underneath this tile

1257
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,359
or in that vicinity

1258
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,920
and it is over a pretty pretty

1259
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:52,000
significant part of structure

1260
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,960
and so

1261
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,720
the team as we left them today they were

1262
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,079
hoping to be able to take a little bit

1263
00:47:02,950 --> 00:46:58,000
advantage of that as well

1264
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:05,030
okay our next

1265
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,720
reporter on the phone bridge is james

1266
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,960
dean

1267
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:11,839
ford today so

1268
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:13,760
i think you've answered this but um just

1269
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,480
to

1270
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,839
further clarify i guess on the

1271
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:17,920
comparison with 118

1272
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,119
on a mission that i covered um

1273
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,280
i take it you did not uh the focus

1274
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,880
inspection determined there was no need

1275
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,960
to do anything further so

1276
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:28,400
if uh

1277
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,319
endeavors uh 134s focused inspection

1278
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,760
confirmed the

1279
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,119
similarities that you're pointing out

1280
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:37,200
now you that would be your

1281
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,829
that it's cleared

1282
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,920
that's correct james the the let me be

1283
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,359
specific

1284
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,119
on the first part of your question for

1285
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,839
sts-118 we did in fact with the focus

1286
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,680
inspection um

1287
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,920
if with the increased fidelity of the

1288
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,680
data that we derived from focused

1289
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:00,240
inspection we were able to analytically

1290
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,800
clear the vehicle without doing anything

1291
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,040
beyond focus inspection and as you saw

1292
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:07,040
in the pictures um comparing the

1293
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,760
on-orbit imagery to the post landing

1294
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:11,040
there's

1295
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,640
virtually no difference

1296
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,760
in the tile

1297
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,079
um or the condition of the tile from

1298
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:18,000
when it was on orbit to to after we

1299
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,079
landed

1300
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,400
which says that we had a good analysis

1301
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,760
at least in part it says we had a good

1302
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,000
analysis

1303
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,800
so in this case

1304
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:29,839
we'll do

1305
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,440
inspection we'll get the additional data

1306
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,280
it'll help the team have a little bit

1307
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:37,280
better fidelity on their analysis and

1308
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:40,079
probably allow them to be less

1309
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,520
conservative with the assumptions that

1310
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,400
they have in in their analysis today

1311
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,160
because they're making some

1312
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,559
conservative assumptions about the the

1313
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,720
uh the size the dimensional aspect of

1314
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,000
this if you will

1315
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:54,160
uh where the damage site is concerned

1316
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:55,599
and they could back off on some of that

1317
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,040
conservative and

1318
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,040
conservativeism

1319
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,880
if they have

1320
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,520
better fidelity imagery with some some

1321
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,240
better higher fidelity photography as

1322
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:08,319
well as laser

1323
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,190
we would intend to then hopefully clear

1324
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,040
it analytically with some higher

1325
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:17,040
fidelity data and in that sense it would

1326
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,960
be similar to what we did on sts-118

1327
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:23,200
thanks i was wondering if there would be

1328
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,079
any

1329
00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:26,559
more or just different concern on this

1330
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:28,720
mission given that

1331
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,359
your your late inspection is planned

1332
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,960
earlier and because you're giving away

1333
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,160
the boom

1334
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,400
um

1335
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:38,240
a few extra days i guess maybe a couple

1336
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,000
extra days that that area could be

1337
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,760
exposed i mean is there any issue at all

1338
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,599
with the timing of the late inspection

1339
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,800
after you've already

1340
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,240
identified damage that warrants a

1341
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,800
focused inspection

1342
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,760
uh no not really uh the the two are are

1343
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:53,440
pretty much independent in the sense

1344
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,359
that um you know we're not going to

1345
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,720
leave these areas and we're not going to

1346
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,640
leave this topic and we're not going to

1347
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,880
give the boom away

1348
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:03,520
until i'm completely satisfied that that

1349
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,640
we're not going to need it for anything

1350
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:06,640
else on this mission so

1351
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:10,319
they're decoupled in that sense and

1352
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,760
so we feel pretty good about the plan we

1353
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,839
have

1354
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,440
okay i believe that concludes the

1355
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:16,720
questions from reporters on the phone

1356
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:19,040
bridge we'll turn here to jsc for some

1357
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:20,400
follow-ups if we can start over here

1358
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,520
with gene

1359
00:50:25,750 --> 00:50:24,319
um the soyuz when the soyuz backs off

1360
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,760
and takes a photo

1361
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:27,839
are those glamorous shots or is there an

1362
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,950
um

1363
00:50:36,549 --> 00:50:34,960
similar to the

1364
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:36,559
this is the one thing that's similar to

1365
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,240
the plan we had for sds-133 is that

1366
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,720
there is some

1367
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,640
technical benefit to

1368
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,640
the photography operations that we're

1369
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,240
going to do

1370
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,319
i think for station

1371
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,000
excuse me station program itself in

1372
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:54,400
addition to

1373
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,520
the the to include the partners and and

1374
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:59,359
the vehicles that are resident at

1375
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,280
station now they're going to get a

1376
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:03,200
vantage point that they perhaps have

1377
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,400
never gotten

1378
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:07,440
and is not easy to get

1379
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:08,480
and

1380
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,599
was then

1381
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,880
um

1382
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,160
there's less benefit because i think

1383
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,680
we're going to get overall less imagery

1384
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:21,520
because we're not doing a fly about or a

1385
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,839
fly around per se

1386
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,200
but this

1387
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:27,359
is

1388
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:30,400
a whole lot better than no photography

1389
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:32,240
and in fact there is some engineering

1390
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,510
uh seth bornstein again in terms of

1391
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:40,000
who's going to be operating the boom

1392
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:43,440
and the cameras do you know that yet or

1393
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,319
would

1394
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,400
i'm sure the team knows

1395
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,319
i didn't ask for

1396
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:50,640
for those details we'll talk about um

1397
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,280
that level of detail tomorrow if in fact

1398
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,559
focus inspection is still in the plan

1399
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:58,319
and in terms of the size of that going

1400
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,280
back to

1401
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,680
sort of post-it note size a little bit

1402
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,280
bigger you know slice of bread i'm

1403
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:05,680
trying to think of

1404
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:09,040
of the damage side yeah the damage site

1405
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:11,119
um

1406
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:12,720
i i don't know how to describe it any

1407
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:13,920
better than to give you the exact

1408
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,800
dimensions that we're estimating it as

1409
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400
i've seen all different kind of size

1410
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,240
post-it notes there's really tiny little

1411
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:22,559
teeny tiny ones and there's ones that

1412
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:23,359
are

1413
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,160
you know

1414
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:26,559
larger i'm not sure which post-it note

1415
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,950
okay no further questions here uh at the

1416
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:36,319
johnson space center we'll wrap up the

1417
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,720
briefing a few operational notes the

1418
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:40,400
crews are now in their sleep period the

1419
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,680
shuttle crew is scheduled to wake up at

1420
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,480
9 26 p.m central time the space station

1421
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,480
crew at 101 am central time and the

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space walk the first of the mission

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planned to begin at 2 16 a.m central

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time at the top of the hour we'll be

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bringing the flight day highlights from

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today's activities and that'll be

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running through the crew sleep period